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Welcome to the Build the Church podcast where we help you gain momentum, grow your church, and go the distance. I'm Josh Roberry. Today we get to talk to Sheldon Jay Andrews the Third from Andres Advisory on how to create a Sunday by design. He's going to tell us how Growing Churches Master Sunday through seven switches that he calls the Sunday OS. It's going to be a great conversation. Before we jump into it, I would love to ask you to do a favor for me real quick. Please subscribe to this show and leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts. It's the best way that you can help us on this show. This episode is brought to you by your team.church, the online assessment tool that helps you place every volunteer where they thrive. Hopefully, you're still not using pen and paper for people to take a spiritual gift and disc test in your next steps. If so, your team.church is going to be a great resource for you. It's going to increase the amount of people that take a next step. Because when they have a good experience in your next steps class and their assessment connects them to a team where they thrive based on their personality, people are much more likely to join the team and take another step in their discipleship journey. So go check out your team at your team.church and get 30 days free of the ProTear so you can try all the features. Now let's jump into our conversation with Sheldon. Man, I'm so excited, Sheldon, to have you on the Build the Church podcast. Thank you for joining me.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Incredibly honored. Thank you so much for having me, Josh. Seriously, honored to be here.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

I love getting to know you online a little bit. You're kind of a viral guy. You got some really great things to say online, and uh you host a great podcast. And now you're releasing a book. This is all very exciting.

SPEAKER_00 1:47

You know, if you'd have asked me a year ago if I'd be sitting on the Build the Church podcast with Josh Roberry, I'd say, yeah, that's a bucket list for me. I met you in the lobby of this year's art conference, and you're a giant uh who stands so humbly. And now that I'm releasing a book and I'm on your podcast, if I hadn't been convinced that God loves me today, I'm I'm feeling, you know, specifically loved of God to say, hey man, uh the Bible says your gifts will make room for you and bring you before great men. Hey, I'm sitting in front of one, although virtually, uh, and I'm super honored, man. I'm incredibly honored. I love what you're building. I love your heart for the local church and how you bring not just strategy but uh but relationality to this whole thing and the way in which you do it and you and the team through the ark. It's just it's it is I think it will be counted as one of America's great awakenings, if not already counted as one of America's great awakenings. So, man, sitting with you uh today is is honestly really an honor. Thank you, sir.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

And I'm very excited to maybe introduce you to some ARC pastors and people who have been tuning in to this show to get to know you because if they don't know you, they need to know you and they won't forget you after they meet you. Okay. Well, let's jump into a little bit. You have Louisiana roots like me. Hey man, hey man, both from the boot.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Both from the boot. Listen, man, uh I am born and raised in New Orleans, Louisiana, proud son of the city. You know, I all the things about Louisiana, you know, uh we know and love. I grew up in it, right? In the middle of my dad played for the New Orleans Saints. I am a real New Orleanian, like through and through. And so uh super honored to have that as part of my my childhood and part of the part that formed me.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

Who dat, baby?

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Hey, hey, who that said they're gonna beat them saints.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Monday, red beans and rice.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

You know, uh with the little smoked sausage on the side. Josh, they're not understanding. Josh, they don't understand. They don't, they just got here. But come on in. Welcome, friends. We're so happy you're here. Pull up a plate, let's talk.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

Okay, we need I'm getting hungry, my stomach's growling. So you've been uh advising churches through your group, Andrew's advisory, and doing a lot of great things, helping people at a high level. But before that, we also share some arc roots. Uh you were with Stephen Chandler for a while, some um other great churches. Yeah. So tell us.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

I call him the Bishop of Baltimore. Coming out of the pandemic, Union Church comes to fore through a merger of two great churches happening in Baltimore. I get a call from Stephen Chandler asking me to join his executive team at Union. Get there, Union is a beautiful church, thriving, multiple campuses already. But you know, coming out of the pandemic, everyone's coming back to church. The church in three years goes from uh 2,000 people to over 15,000 people, goes from, at the time, three campuses to uh eight campuses in three different states, and it is just and it is continued by the way. It's just this has just been the story of Union Church. I had a 12-year career in marketing and advertising before going to Union. I was a creative director at an ad agency, got to work for some phenomenal clients, uh, and traveled all over the world doing marketing, but this was different. This was definitively different. The outcomes were different, the way we measured success was radically different. And building God's church is deeply people and relational. And so I I call it, I say to people all the time, it was my PhD in church leadership and church growth. And then from Union, moved back home here to Ohio and got to work for I call him the GOAT, Dr. R. A. Vernon, who is way ahead of his time, right? He is he is another early 2000s multi-site preacher without the title, multiple campuses traveling between all of them, uh building systems and structure and strategies to serve multiple people around the city of Cleveland. I got to join his team and really kind of architect some new systems for growth and strategy. And then God showed me, like, hey, there's an ability for you to really do this for lots of churches, taking what is complex and making it simple and biteable, grabbable for pastors and leaders in their teams. And so then Andrus advisory becomes my calling card. It becomes the thing that I believe God put me on the earth to do, to really help churches find strategy, structure, and systems uh to grow. Not like unapologetically to grow. The church is the hope of the world. Uh, there is no, there should be no limit to our reach. We should be content, we should never be satisfied. And the church of Jesus has to grow. And so Dr. I. Vernon taught me the church is never neutral, it's either advancing or it's declining. And so it's our job as leaders to always ensure that the mission of God is growing.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

You have this provocation in your book that we're gonna talk about. It's coming out this week, uh, Sunday by design. So we're gonna get into that seven things that you give churches to do. But in there, you kind of set up this like thought that's very provoking. You ask the question, what is the capacity of hell? Yeah, what is that all about? Why would you bring things up in that way?

SPEAKER_00 6:20

The book starts off by laying a foundation that the Church of Jesus Christ is intended to be the dominating kingdom on the earth. And to anyone who hears these conversations and they say, Man, that guy's just into church growth, although I am, or that guy's into numbers, although I am, I would also say there's an alternative to this conversation that is not being had, which is what is the capacity of hell? Because when you can answer that question, then you can tell me what the capacity of the church should be, because it should be larger than hell. Amen, somebody. No one wants to have this conversation, but until we're really honest that our work in our local community is not done, as long as hell has a has a foothold. And I know I'm I'm not a hellfire and brimstone preacher at all. I'm just saying there is an eternal reality to the church that I think we can get lost sometimes. That we, oh man, we got great programs, we got great services, we got groups, we got next steps. It's all beautiful. And I'm not saying we shouldn't be obsessing over those things, but we're never done as long as as long as hell is still an alternative to people. And so the entire idea, even behind the book, but behind what I believe God called me to, is the reality that the church has to be the effective measure of God on the earth because we people have a real alternative to heaven, and it is hell. And no, it's like, oh, shut in hell. This is a crazy way to start a podcast. But hear me, pastor, hear me, leader, hear me, director, hear me, person who's invested in their local church. What you are doing is so much bigger than what it looks like. And there's a war being waged in the spiritual. Paul tells us we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but we have there's powers and principalities, things above us outside of our visual line of sight that are at war with each other. And what you're doing, you're not just parking cars on Sunday, you're not just taking care of kids, you're not just hosting groups, you are pushing back darkness. And this is such a this this is why we can't watch this. This is why we can't treat what we're doing as common. And so when you can tell me the capacity of hell, I mean you can tell me that hell is full, you can stop working, you can stop being serious about the growth of the local church. And until we get to that day, which we are nowhere near, I would assert, what we're doing is is incredibly serious. And the book posits that for all the theologues at the beginning, so then we can then get into the brass tax conversation of what does it take to grow God's church and grow it healthy and sustainably?

SPEAKER_02 8:41

The alternative that you mentioned there to churches not being large is that hell would be full, and that's not what we want. I never understood people spiritualizing small churches and spiritualizing, oh, large churches are bad. How could a large church be bad? Someone say, I don't like megachurch. Well, at what point should the churches start turning people away? And then what's the result of turning them away? So why wouldn't you want a large church?

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Thank you, Josh. I'm quoting a great, uh, a great philosopher. I've learned that you cannot have growth and control at the same time, right? There is a there's a natural physiological organizational uh reality that if something is growing, you are delegating authority to someone else. And I think what where I exist and also where I know you exist in this conversation, is helping leaders understand how to create healthy levels and layers of delegation within your within your team and your church so that the culture is aligned, the mission is aligned, but you're not the only person responsible for all the decision making. When you are missional and when you are desiring to win the loss, you will make sacrifices that set your preferences aside because you realize that that person does not know Jesus and your preference has to come secondary to their meeting Jesus. And I think there right there, right there is where we find the kind of tension that the book talks about, which is there's an intentionality behind growing churches that separates them from what I'll say, churches up against a growth barrier. I think every church is meant to grow. Every church. There's not a church listening to this conversation that is not meant to grow. There's churches that are growing, and then there are churches that are pressing up against a growth barrier. I don't call them stuck, I don't call them stagnant, I don't call them declining, because I don't believe that's God's hope for his church. So I don't I don't use words God doesn't use them. What does Jesus say? I only say what the Father says. So uh they're not stuck. Uh they're not declining. They're just I like that.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

I've I've never heard that phraseology before, but there you said they're pressing up against a growth barrier. There's a barrier.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

There's a mentality, there's a thinking, there's a thought, there's a system missing. And when that revelation comes, growth is on the other side. And we see that we see this in the life of Jesus teaching the disciples. It's if I can change your mind, I can change like your effect. And so I said that to say, yeah, no one's declining. No one's you're not stuck. You you serve a God who owns all the cattle of a thousand years. You're never stuck. Like, there's always a way. The Bible says he's already made a way of escape. Like, like there's already a there's already a breakthrough on the other side. What you're missing is a strategy. What you're missing is a tool, what you're missing is is revelation, or what you're missing is exposure. And I think what the book tries to do is say, hey, don't go looking for a bunch of things. Let me, because I get the honor of being in and out of churches all across the country, and I'm able to compare notes. Let me compare some notes that I found. And let me show you seven singular things that growing churches are doing that are not when you hear them, you're not gonna be like, oh my gosh, that's revolutionary. You're gonna hear that's really simple, but we don't do that. And I I attacked that.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

You talk about that. You set it up that way, and I think it's so important uh to highlight that. You say that the the churches that are growing aren't doing like innovative things, new things, exciting things. They're doing the same simple seven things over and over and over again. That is really clever, and that is really it. But you have a nice way of saying you call it Sunday OS, which I've not heard that before. So I'd love for you to break down what is Sunday OS and what are those things?

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Yeah, so okay, so let's let's use all three. Let's Sunday OS, Sunday operating system, Sunday. I believe that in in our idea of being missional and accomplishing what God's put in us, especially in the local church, that God gave us the tool. So we're all, you know, we're everyone on this, everyone's listening to this podcast has has bumped into, heard of, or been interested in some church growth technique, idea, system, strategy. I'm I'm saying what is obvious. God gave you one. It's Sunday. He God said, hey, every seven days, like clockwork, which Sunday comes regardless, every pastor in the in this podcast knows it. Sunday's coming, it's and it's coming fast. Sunday's coming regardless of if we're prepared for it or not. God literally built it into the cadence of Christian of Christianity and humanity to say, every seven days you'll pause and you'll gather and you'll honor and celebrate me. That is your singular like the culture understands that Sundays are for church, whether or not they go. Hey, what when should we be, where should we put our focus? God is super clear. Don't forsake the gathering of ourselves together. And the second half of that is a warning. The second half of that, of that, of that scripture is because there's a day coming where you won't be able to, right? And so again, to tie this all the way back to the beginning, there is a real reality that Sunday was given to us as a tool. So Sunday. So the book starts off positing that Sunday is your growth mechanism. It is your, it's, it is where you should put a disproportionate, watch this, amount of effort because through Sunday, we see the totality of the mission of your church. I say this and I say this to pastors all the time. I say, your church is never better than it appears on a Sunday. If you're disorganized Monday through Friday, we'll see it on a Sunday. If you're late Monday through Friday, we'll see it on Sunday. If you didn't plan Monday through Friday, we see it on Sunday. If you love people, we see it on Sunday. If you're a church of presence Monday through Friday, we see it on Sunday. If you're a church that believes in prayer, you know what we'll find on Sunday? We'll find you praying. And so Sunday becomes the crystallization of your mission. That's part one. Operation, the operating system is part two. Every growing church has a mechanism by which the church moves, right? And those of us who are in this conversation who are a part of the movement that is the ARK, you have been exposed to this mechanism, right? ARK has a mechanism, uh, churches that are uh have led the ARK movement have a mechanism. I can rattle off some of you are human right now, know God, find freedom, discover purpose, make a difference. That's an operating system. It is how we envision the movement of the church. Every church, you don't have to have that specific operating system, but every growing church has an operating system. And what the book says is regardless of what your operating system is, if you're a Windows, if you're a Linux, if you're an iOS, you know, I just switched into operating systems there for all the technology hurts. If you have an operating system, they're all built on the same seven core principles. And I'm trying to help leaders as they navigate, yo, what up, Sheldon, what operating system should my church be running on or what um, what's our unique way of accomplishing our mission? I'm saying, hey, let's, before we get there, let's define that every operating system runs on the same seven basic principles. And that's what the book surfaces is that, hey, regardless of, hey, Sheldon, we're a presence church. Hey, Sheldon, we're a prayer church, hey, Sheldon, we are an outreach church, hey, Sheldon, we're a leadership church, hey, Sheldon, we're a family church. That's that's great. That's your larger, like kind of ecosystem. What I'm saying is there is a smaller set of seven key things that no matter which of those you choose, your church has to have these seven things in order to maximize its mission.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

Sunday OS, I love it. I think that's such a clever way of phrasing that up. One of the things you talk about, I believe it's the first principle that you talk about. You say one of the most expensive statements that will cost your church more than anything else is my people don't mind. Why is that?

SPEAKER_00 16:07

This ties back to this idea of small thinking in church, right? That I know everyone in this church, which is healthy at the onset, but becomes a limiting belief as your church grows. The goal, hear me, don't freak out because I know a bunch of people say, Whoa, Sheldon, you're saying I shouldn't know everybody in my church. I'm saying your church should be growing in such a way that you actually don't know who minds. You should lead your church through the idea that every Sunday someone is coming into your church who you don't know. You should prepare for that. You should expect that. Matter of fact, I think you should orient your prayers toward Lord, send us people who we do not know. And when they arrive, you shouldn't be surprised that they got there. So, yeah, your current people may not mind, but the people who are coming may. And so, what I'm what I'm offering is a sensitivity to the idea that, or maybe I should say, what I'm offering is to destroy the idea of arrogance that you know everyone in your church and you know what's acceptable and you know their culture, and to say, hey, what if an unbeliever came in today? What if an unchurch person came? Would they mind? Are are we not here? Watch this, not have we, because I know there's two schools of thought hearing me right now, is church is not exclusively for the unbeliever. I'm not, I'm we're not gonna settle that debate here, although I have a strong feeling. But what I am saying is, is there has to be some reality that on any given Sunday, someone is stepping your church who does not know Jesus or who is unchurched, and what they encounter can't be so far outside of what they needed that they never find themselves in your story or watch this returning. So I say that uh the one of the one of the one of the declining statements I hear of a growth fa of a church facing a growth barrier is yeah, we do that because our people like it. They don't mind. Well, yeah, your people do. But do new people have you thought about that same exchange or interaction through the lens of someone who's joining for the first time? I think a healthy growing church expects people they don't know every single Sunday and they are prepared to meet them when they arrive.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

That's a great business principle that I think maybe pastors aren't aware of, and that is in marketing school they teach you that if you just survey your customers, you never get the feedback from the people who are not coming back because they didn't like your product or service. And so you have to find a way to get beyond thinking, well, this is what my people like, or if I change this, I'll lose these people and get to a bigger kingdom mentality that, like you said, what's the capacity of hell? I gotta reach people and continue to populate heaven. So, real quick, could you run through what the seven things are?

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Yeah, I'm not gonna, I'm the people like seven, just a lot. Okay, let me give them to you real quick, and I'm and I won't I won't preach like a preacher on all of them. I'll just literally tell you what they are so you can go and get the book and really d dive into these. So, in order, these are in order of priority, these are not seven things randomly. They literally go in order because without the one proceeding, you can't get to the last one. Here we go. First, you gotta live in the clock. You, a growing church, has a sensitivity and awareness that people's time is valuable and what you do with that time matters. Every minute you live in the clock. Number two, you choose a dependable service or what I call a locked service format. Number two, you lock your service format. Here's why: because your church is run on volunteers, and volunteers are not thinking Monday through Saturday, for the most part, about the order of service. And so dependability becomes the framework or the foundation from which your volunteers can grow in excellence on Sunday. Because we know that after song three, we're gonna play a video, and then after the video, pastors are gonna walk on stage. But if that changes every week, you know what ends up happening? The video doesn't fire, the microphone's not on, and the lighting cues miss because we change it every week, so we lock our service format. Number three, we script the first five minutes. Josh, I'm gonna say this is the most controversial one in the book. I've already heard pastors who've who've already read it say, ah, Sheldon, this is a lot. Why I say script the first five minutes is directly correlated to the Old Testament's design for entering into the tabernacle. We do not process into the presence of God without order. We know when God gives the order of the tabernacle, it is almost three books of the Bible in which He is being explicit about how to enter into the tabernacle. And so when we start service, which when we start our experiences together on Sunday, you'll find it a growing church. We know exactly what's gonna happen. We're not making it up as we go along. Number four, we capture every guest. We have a growing church that has a mechanism to capture every guest. Now you're gonna say, Shono, we got QR codes, we got tap to we got tap to connect, we got the connection cards. I'm just saying there's a lot of churches who are looking, who are facing a growth barrier, who have not settled whether or not they have a mechanism to capture every guest. And Josh, this ties all the way back to the thing we were just talking about, that our church is ready to receive guests every single Sunday. Number five, we make one ask every Sunday. Obviously, when that one ask is in addition to salvation. Every Sunday, we're presenting the gospel and we're asking people to come into relationship with Jesus. After that, we make one ask. We say, hey, your next step is to do this because everyone has a next step, regardless if they've been at your church 10 years or 10 minutes, they have a next step. And instead of offering six options or a slate or a menu of things, we clarify one clear next step. Hey, if you experienced our word, if you experienced worship and you experienced the word here and you gave your life to Jesus, here's the one thing we want you to do next. And we make that abundantly clear. Number six, growing churches follow up with people within 24 hours of that decision. Hey, Josh, it's 2026. AI has automated more things, AI is paying our bills, it's responding to our emails and our text messages. Guys, this is one of the easiest ways that the Church of Jesus can be advanced is In the moment of decision making, we can be present in people's decision by being urgent. God will not send you people to neglect. If you're not ready to follow up with them as soon as they make a decision, you weren't ready to shepherd or steward them. And last but not least, the seventh switch within the Sunday operating system is we count. We count people because people count. How did the shepherd leave the 99 for the one unless he knew there were a hundred? There is a there is a spiritual desire to understand who is in your house, who are you shepherding and who are you leading? And without counting them, you will find yourself making emotional decisions that the numbers don't match. And this and again, I like to call the seven switches. Um, those of us who are students of of Pastor Dave Ramsey, I call him Pastor Dave Ramsey because he's pastored my life. Okay, he has pastored my life. He's gonna be a pastor. Uh, you heard the baby steps the first time and you said, that's easy. Get save an emergency fund, pay off your biggest. And they're all they sound they sound to all of us, Josh. I know you you and your wife have probably been here. That sounds easy until you really look at, man, that first thousand dollars when you don't have extra money is so I'm saying, so when I say live in the clock as the first switch, you're like, shut up, that's easy until you realize, oh man, this today's service was 80 minutes. Next Sunday was 120, the Sunday after it'll be 70. You're not actually living in the clock. And that discipline, that discipline that you need to live in the clock is the same discipline that appears in the seventh switch when you're counting people. But if you don't start off with a basic discipline, you don't mature in discipline. And so that's why they're in sequential order because you every one of them builds a stronger muscle that creates what I call an operating system to grow your church.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

There's so much I want to get into on the show. Bro, it's so fun. I love this.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Josh, I'm so excited about this book, and I'm so excited you invited me into this because I literally, this thing is like uh it's one of those things once you see it and once you hear it, it's hard to be like, it's hard to argue with, I would hope. I would posit arrogantly as an author. It's hard to argue with. But also, it is it is one of those uh it's kind of like an atomic habit. It is a total money makeover. Once you do this, once you master this, what happens on the other end is is financial freedom. What happens on the other end is high-end productivity. And for Sunday by design, my goal is what happens on the other end is revival in your church.

SPEAKER_02 24:29

So this book's coming out this week, the week this podcast is out, September 15th. There's so much more that we didn't get into that. I just I really want to, but we gotta wrap it up. Part two. Part two. Yeah, part two. Yes. Part two is get the book. You talk one of the things you talk about, like go going over on time, is does it make you more anointed? It means you're less prepared. I love that. The the script in the first five minutes, I can't wait for people to learn about that and figure that out. I believe in that so strongly. Um, where can people get the book? What kind of resources are you putting around the book? I know you would never just release a book. Come on. There's gotta be more. I don't I know there's more.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Thank you. You know, it's a great question. You can get the book right now. You go to sundaybydesign.com. Uh it's available on all the places you buy books, including ebook, and there's an audiobook coming out uh because some people that's a new way. So I'm gonna, I'm actually in the process of recording an audiobook. If you go to Sunday by Design, you'll see you can find out all those things uh and figure out all the different places. Part two is my heart is to partner with pastors and their leadership teams uh to think about not just the seven switches that we talk about in the book, but to think about their larger operating system. The next step after the book is what we call Sunday OS Plus, which is a coaching platform where you work with me and our team to implement these what I what we call the four pillar systems of every growing church. So Sunday by Design introduces you to the first one. There are three others. And to help you implement those over 12 months, we want to partner with you, we want to walk along with you as you do that so that you can see the movement that God put in your heart start to experience in your church. And uh so you can go to Sunday by Design, learn about all that, of course, reach out to me, do all the social media ways. Uh, I'd love to partner with pastors, their leaders, executive pastors, um, as you implement what I bec what I'm calling the systems revival in your churches, um, so that you can not only have revival, but you can have lasting revival.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

I love it. And I love the way that revival looks these days. Um it's not being in church for five hours and weird things happening. It's it's transformed lives, transform communities, people praying, serving, giving, and living holy lives. And I love that I get to do it with people like you. Sheldon, thank you so much, man. It's been such a privilege and honor. Uh, just your spirit, your joy, the way you craft uh a conversation through story. It's just, man, it's just amazing. So really, really enjoyed talking with you.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

Josh, honored. Thank you so much to everybody else cheering you on. Let's build the church.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

Hopefully that episode helps you plan your Sundays and make them more effective as culture centers and experiences for your church. Go check out the book Sunday by Design, How Growing Churches, Master Sunday at Sundaybydesign.com. I'll link the book in the show notes. I know it's going to be a great resource to you and your team as you continue to plan and execute amazing Sunday services. If you're enjoying this podcast, I'd love for you to subscribe, hit that subscribe button real quick, and leave us a review. It's one of the best ways you can support the show. It's so important for us to get good reviews so people know that this is a show that is making a difference. So I appreciate you taking a moment to do that. Also, this episode was brought to you by your team.church. It's a way for you to put technology into your hands, your team, and the people in your church wanting to take next steps so that they are more likely to join a team and continue their discipleship journey. So go check out your team.church and place every volunteer where they thrive. Thank you for joining us today. I can't wait for you to be with us next time. Until then, keep leading and believing strong.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

I love Brad Hampton, because I'm calling Brad Hampton after his episode. So this is yo, I love that we're all together.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Hi guys.

SPEAKER_03 28:54

Brad's recorded next. Brad's recorded next. I love it so much.

SPEAKER_00 29:00

I didn't know you could pop up. Pastor Brad, I'll owe you a phone call as soon as you're done. So as soon as you're done, uh copy.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

We're wrapping up, Brad. Uh let me let me text you when we're finished. So I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

All right, I was just wanting to make sure the technology was working. My bad. See you soon, both of you.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

Yo, we should totally leave that in the episode. That's so that's such a good pop in.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

Maybe I will. That was so fun. I love Brad.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

So good.